(\lrf.l(rf))(\fz.f(f(fz)))(\fz.f(f(f(fz))))
~~> 12
(\fz.f(f(f(f(f(f(f(f(f(f(f(fz))))))))))))
And if we choose different numbers, the result is even less clear:
(\lrf.l(rf))(\fz.f(f(fz)))(\fz.f(f(f(fz))))
~~> 12
(\fz.f(f(f(f(f(f(f(f(f(f(f(fz))))))))))))
And if we choose different numbers, the result is even less clear: